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aviator1 replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 1:13 PM

News on the BBC News 24 reports of an incident at Heathrow airport. A BA 777 has fallen short of the runway although there seems to be little other news at the moment...more to follow!!!

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apgphoto Posted: Thu, Jan 17 2008 1:14 PM

Live pics on BBC show the 777 landed on the grass near Hatton Cross and it currently is sitting on its belly on the piano keys of 27L. Everyone evacuated, minor casualties

 

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Maverick replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 1:33 PM

 Thankfully no significant injuries, it seems to have gone some distance on the mud. It is remarkable they stopped so soon. Does anybody know if anyone was there?

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aviator1 replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 1:36 PM

BBC's Political Editor Nick Robinson is on the delayed aircraft that Gordon Brown is on. He is currently reporting on the phone, blatantly breaking rules there Smile

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aviator1 replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 2:09 PM

An eye witness on the aircraft said that nobody was told within the aircraft of any troubles, he said they just landed heavily and then the oxygen masks started to come down!

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Eclipse replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 2:31 PM

Aircraft involved reported to be G-YMMM. Early eye-witnesses reported a very non-standard approach with a very late turn to line up on the runway.

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Maverick replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 2:43 PM

More pics:

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/AirSpace/photos/baboeing777accident/default.aspx

 

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Beaver replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 2:48 PM

Flight's are now being diverted to Luton.  Not really sure how they will cope with the traffic.

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Airwolf replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 3:04 PM
BA confirmed it was G-YMMM
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Airwolf replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 3:07 PM

Delivered new to  BA May 2001

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Batfink replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 3:12 PM

Video of the aftermath can be found at the Aviation Safety Network

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Dragon Lady replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 9:11 PM

Just seen some footage on BBC's 9:00 news of the 777 landing, taken by someone outside the Airport. The landing attitude of the aircraft seemed to be increasing at a higher angle than normal so the pilot's did an extraordinary job in getting this jet onto the Airport itself.

Huge well done, excellent airmanship.

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k replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 9:25 PM

Hi guys, as someone who did a bit of work a few years ago on BA's 777 (no ,not this one), does any one know if the ram air turbine deployed? Am sure that it auto deploys on loss of power. Although may have been to late to do much good. 

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Daytona replied on Thu, Jan 17 2008 11:43 PM

Nice idea to use YouTube, but it didn't work for me earlier - maybe too much demand.

What's the stall speed of that aircraft ?

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Maverick replied on Fri, Jan 18 2008 9:25 AM

Here is a Google maps picture of the Heathrow area where the incident happened

 
 

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apgphoto replied on Fri, Jan 18 2008 10:22 AM

A very shot clip of the aircraft on final has appeared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwQ4EHQY8Y 

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skytrain replied on Fri, Jan 18 2008 1:31 PM

 

Hi Goose, your picture in the first post and your comments in this about the damage caused by the main gear separating are revealing.  The main gear is usually attached to a major structural member, in this case the aft wing spar.  The picture confirms that the level of damage done to the wing is severe and I have no doubt the integrity of the fuel tank has been compromised in a major way.  Now ask yourself, what's missing from the picture?  The answer is Fuel.

 The damage caused by the main gear separating should have resulted in a major fire.  Since there was none, it's pretty safe to speculate on the reason why.

 

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flypusher replied on Fri, Jan 18 2008 2:08 PM
I must admit that running out of fuel would seem to me to be a very plausible scenario given what we currently know. skytrains' comments regarding the apparent lack of spilt fuel and the amazing lack of fire may also be consistent. Does anyone know what order 777 fuel tanks are emptied in ? Where would the last 5-10% of fuel be at the end of a long haul 777 flight ? Also bear in mind that it was coming from China - a country in which corruption and corner cutting is not unheard of. Does a scenario in which a fuel bowser operator might under fill in order to have kerosine left over to sell again sound completely impossible ? Maybe a bit of short filling, combined with unexpected headwinds and a few circuits on hold just pushed things those last few hundred liters too far.... Also, dont you think its strange that the heroic pilot and saviour of 150 souls hasnt shown up in a news conference yet ? More than 24hrs after the event ?? Other points: Deployment of the APU strongly suggests loss of main engine power in flight. As Goose commented, picture evidence seems to rule out major birdstrike. An on line and relatively straight landing would argue against wind shear (also weather relatively benign).
 
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