This is Hyperbola's 16min 16s interview with Virgin Galactic's chief test pilot David Mackay (pr.Mack-eye). Mackay is Virgin Galactic's chief test pilot on a part time basis while he still works for Virgin Atlantic, which he joined in 1995. He joined the Virgin airline after spending 16 years with the Royal Air Force (RAF) and spent half of that time as a test pilot. He graduated with his test pilot wings from the French test pilot school, École du Personnel Navigant d'Essais et de Réception (EPNER) through an exchange between EPNER and the RAF's Empire Test Pilot School. This audio recording was made during a phone conversation. Noises in the background are my colleagues here in the Flight office