The Perm plane crash happened because of engine failure or so we are told by the russian investigators. The russian transport minister says there is no evidence that the plane exploded in mid-air. However eye-witness's claim that the plane had burst into flames in mid air.
This could mean that the plane was shot out of the sky rather than engine trouble. If you examine the crash site then you will notice that there is just dirt and what looks like bits of paperon the ground . If there was engine trouble then would there be at least a bit more of the aircraft left? Rather than one part of the plane that has ID on. Also the plane hasn't even made much of a hole in the ground. The railway next to the crash site is still in perfect condition no damage what so ever.
The last person to speak to the pilot of the plane was the air traffic controller at Perm airport, Irak Bikbov. He said to Russia today ''The pilot was behaving in an unusual manner. He wasn't following my instructions. Something was happening but he didn't want to say anything or was hiding something. He contacted us and I told him that it was time to begin the landing. However, the instruments indicated the plane began to gain height. It climbed from 600 metres to 900 metres. I told him to confirm his height, which he did but added that the plane continued to descend. In reality however, the plane went up to 1,200 metres so it was too close to the runway and too high for the plane to land. I instructed the pilot to make a second attempt. The crew confirmed they received the instructions, but did not follow them. I told them to turn right, but the pilot turned left. When they were at around 600 metres, the pilot cried out and then I saw a crash somewhere over the city. I understood that they had fallen."
An attack or an accident...who knows.
Good point. Wasn't there a couple of diplomat onboard? It's all a bit fishy.
Yeah, and with the ossetian war that happened recently and that russia dont really get on with their neigbours the idea that russia was behind it all really comes to mind
JHFOX13:Yeah, and with the ossetian war that happened recently and that russia dont really get on with their neigbours the idea that russia was behind it all really comes to mind
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I'm following - you're suggesting that the Russian government actually destroyed the aircraft and murdered everyone onboard?
My wings are like a shield of steel.
Well think about it. Why would a trained pilot who is skilled at his job and knows a lot about flying aircraft be behaving in an unusual manner and ignoring the air traffic control in following instructions?
Why would the pilot say that he understood what the air traffic control was saying but never carried it out?
Why would he lie to the air traffic control saying that he was decending when in reality he was increasing in altitude?
What was the pilot hiding from the air traffic control?
The nationality of these people were mostly russian but there were americans,ukraines and a couple of diplomats were also aboard this flight.
The investigators ain't really sure of what happened they say that it is ''likely suffered engine failure''. But 737's have reliable engines. Plus planes go through checks to make sure that there is no problems anyway.
The simple answer to most of your questions is 'I don't know' and that's because it's not even a week after the crash and I've only read press reports which aren't necessarily the most accurate sources of information, I also don't like to speculate over events that I have only second hand knowledge of. As for your last point about 737s having reliable engines, that doesn't really make much sense - every unreliable piece of equipment in the history of man was reliable up until the point it first broke. The perfect example is the Heathrow 777, up until that point an incident like that had never happened.. Until it actually did in London.
My main issue with conspiracy theories is that they seem to imbue the conspirators with a superhuman ability to control events and keep secrets which is beyond likelihood. For instance, some people still believe the moonlandings were faked which is a secret that would have to be kept by hundreds, if not thousands of people involved, and this was supposedly orchestrated by the United States Government; the same United States Government that couldn't keep a secret of what actually happened in the Oval Office between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky and at one point in time, only two people knew about that.
JHFOX13:Why would a trained pilot who is skilled at his job and knows a lot about flying aircraft be behaving in an unusual manner and ignoring the air traffic control in following instructions?
I'm guessing you're not familiar with Egyptair 990.....
JHFOX13: Why would the pilot say that he understood what the air traffic control was saying but never carried it out?
Maybe he was too busy actually doing his job trying to recover the aircraft? Engine fires/malfunctions aren't exactly an everyday occurrence.
JHFOX13: Why would he lie to the air traffic control saying that he was decending when in reality he was increasing in altitude?
Spatial disorientation? From what I understand the weather around Perm at the time of the accident wasn't great, plus it was a night flight which would have put extra pressure on the pilots during the approach and landing sequence.
JHFOX13: What was the pilot hiding from the air traffic control? The nationality of these people were mostly russian but there were americans,ukraines and a couple of diplomats were also aboard this flight.
Before you insinuate that the Russian government are on a mass-murder trip, where's the proof that the pilot (or any of the crew for that matter) were hiding anything from ATC?
JHFOX13:The investigators ain't really sure of what happened
Bravo. So why bother wasting your time speculating about far-fetched theories that surround the circumstances of this accident? Do the smart thing and wait for the prelim to be released. If the investigators that are currently sifting through the wreckage aren't sure of the causes, how the hell can you be so certain of foul-play?
JHFOX13:737's have reliable engines. Plus planes go through checks to make sure that there is no problems anyway.
Sadly though, you forget that the checks are carried out by humans. I'm sure every design company in the world would love their technology to be 'fool-proof' - it's just a shame they can't invent a 'fool-proof' person at the same time.... With no disrespect to the thousand of mechanics out there, humans will be the weak link in the chain 99% of the time as far as the maintenance of an aircraft is concerned.
Vidi, Vici, Veni. I saw, I conquered, I came.
At the end of the day nobody really knows what happened to that plane. We have only been told that it was engine failure. People just assume that this happened or that happened. I assumed this because of the way that the russian answered the questions given to him by the paparazzi. They didn't seem to match what eye-witness's saw and what air traffic control said thats all.
yeah, i guess your right
Thank you very much finally someone thinks the same as me. Ah, well im glad that you said that. A VERY GOOD POINT.