Infamous YouTube star Fornof re-appears in pro-F-22 article

We last heard from Col Terrence Fornof on YouTube in November, after he infamously assessed the foreign participants at Red Flag 2008.

I just spotted Fornof again in a great article posted online today by The Atlantic. In the article, “The Last Ace”, Black Hawk Down author Mark Bowden takes up the cause of preserving F-22 production from an early demise.

Bowden quotes Fornof twice in the 15-page article, mostly on the Sukhoi SU-30′s surprise performance against the US Air Force F-15s at Cope India 2004. Bowden writes:

“We came rolling in, like, ‘Beep-beep, superpower comingthrough,’” Colonel Fornof told me. “And we had our eyes opened. Welearned a lot. By the third week, we were facing a threat that weweren’t prepared to face, because we had underestimated them. They hadfigured out how to take Russian-built equipment and improve upon it.”

Here’s Fornof on YouTube.

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6 Responses to Infamous YouTube star Fornof re-appears in pro-F-22 article

  1. Dave 11 February, 2009 at 7:01 pm #

    Another excellent piece by Mark. I remember he helped me out a few times when I was still in school with research on Operation Gothic Serpent. Awesome dude.

  2. Stephen Trimble 11 February, 2009 at 7:23 pm #

    Thanks for reminding me about Operation Gothic Serpent:

  3. Mike Z 11 February, 2009 at 7:44 pm #

    This is why I found it so odd that some of the Indian Press and some IAF fanboys got their panties in such a bunch after his original debrief. He’s actually rather complimentary about the IAF.

  4. Obamanite 11 February, 2009 at 9:30 pm #

    Mike Z -

    As I alluded to in a couple of comments back when the original Fornof post appeared in the Dew Line, the Indians are a terribly touchy bunch when it comes to any actual or perceived criticism, suffering from that lethal combination of a superiority complex masking a deep inferiority complex, which leads to, among other maladies, Nazism, today’s resurgent Russian nationalism, Hugo Chavez, Ahmadinejad, the caste system and a vituperative Indian press that gets “their panties in such a bunch” over a fighter pilot expressing pretty objective opinions about his “side’s” performance versus that of his “opponents”. Now, let’s wait for the response from Indian folks working in call centers with names like “John Anderson” let loose the dogs of hell on me for having the temerity for telling it like it is, as they did previously with Fornof, that abject proselytizer of undisputed US air power supremacy.

  5. Dave 11 February, 2009 at 11:52 pm #

    Obamanite- The Indians are very touchy that’s true… but its a reaction to colonialism that is present in most countries that have been subjected to that kind of occupation. You’ll that kind of thing everywhere around the world. For the record the caste system is thousands of years old and has nothing to do with the any more recent phenomena that you mentioned… it’s a much a part of their way of life as the clan system in Somalia or the tribal systems of Iraq.

  6. solomon 12 February, 2009 at 4:20 am #

    this article only highlights the fact that inside the USAF, the battle between the F-22 and F-35 is now fully engaged.

    “The features that advance the F-35 beyond even the F-22 Raptor are the plane’s avionics and sensors and how information is displayed to the pilot. “It is going change things. It is going to reshape things” Davis said. The F-35’s avionics are 20 years beyond what F-16 pilots are used to”

    quote by Maj Gen Charles Davis in the Feb 6 online edition of the Air Force Times

    The Col’s comments are instructive but little has been mentioned about the restraints that the USAF was fighting under. I am still under the impression that a little “chicken little” is being played here, both in terms of the threat from modernised fighters designed in the ’70s and in terms of the supposed lack of capability regarding the F-35.

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