Rand builds case for zombie F-22s

F-22 UAE exercise credit DOD.jpgThe Lockheed Martin F-22 production line is dead, dead, dead. The US Air Force won’t buy any more and foreign customers can’t by any more. The age of Raptor production is over; long live the Lightning II.

Or, is it?

Rand’s Project Air Force today published a 120-page monograph titled: Ending F-22A Production: Costs and Industrial Base Implications of Alternative Options.

Hold on. What “alternative options”? Didn’t we already decide the F-22 is dead — no ifs, ands or earmarks?

Rand’s analysts explain in their report that the study was commissioned by the US Air Force before the decision was made to terminate production.

Some might wonder why Rand didn’t think to simply cancel the study after Congress approved the termination order, but let’s leave that aside for now.

Rand’s analysis calculates the costs of restarting production after a two-year hiatus, producing 75 “zombie” F-22s (zombie=back from the dead) between 2012 and 2016. The study concludes that the average unit cost for the 75 F-22s is $227 million, including re-start costs. The average flyaway unit cost, which exclude re-start costs, is $179 million.



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16 Responses to Rand builds case for zombie F-22s

  1. johnny 3 March, 2010 at 4:42 pm #

    How reliable those estimates are is anyone’s guess.

  2. elgatoso 3 March, 2010 at 8:06 pm #

    Restart the F22 and finish the F35

  3. Atomic Walrus 3 March, 2010 at 9:59 pm #

    Return from the dead, eh? I wonder if Airpower Australia would prefer to call it the Jesus F-22…

  4. sferrin 4 March, 2010 at 12:37 am #

    “before the decision was made to terminate production”

    Which means those figures are dated (and it ain’t going to mean they’ll be cheaper now). I’d go on about the stupidity and short-sightedness of poliicians but apparently that’s not “PC” around here. Besides, it’s not like it’s news I suppose.

  5. Matthew G. Saroff 4 March, 2010 at 2:58 am #

    Brains….Brains….brains….

    It’s the whole Zombie thing.

  6. sferrin 4 March, 2010 at 3:28 am #

    Matthew: It’d finally get a “slang” nickname (and given the glut of zombie movies the last few years, a timely one.)

  7. Gary from Oz 4 March, 2010 at 10:20 am #

    Surely that would make it the Lazarus F22 (or Lazarus with a triple by pass for Australian readers)

  8. jetcal1 4 March, 2010 at 5:49 pm #

    Reagan resurrected the B-1

  9. ProwlerAMDO 5 March, 2010 at 5:30 am #

    Obama’s no Reagan. I think we need to re-open the line, but I’m not holding my breath.

  10. jetcal1 5 March, 2010 at 2:41 pm #

    I keep telling people that the current administration will be the best thing to happen to this country since Jimmy Carter.

    BTW, Where are the AMDO at? And did you get those nice new wings yet?

  11. Darthrax 10 March, 2010 at 1:16 am #

    The American Right Wing is as pathetic as the current president that it criticizes. The war-loving neo-con @#$%^&*’s have made their contribution to the country’s downfall by their unceasing desire to match tax cuts for the rich with ever-expanding defense spending (i.e., “Reaganomics”). Of course, Dubya faithfully followed that playbook. Now the country’s sitting on a national debt bomb that Obama is pumping up further big time. The result is not national security but rather monetary enslavement. Yes, the USAF (along with Japan) could use more Raptors, but FUNDING is the issue. Reagan restarted the B-1, but “Reaganomics” is not going to cut it now. Only an economically-ignorant simpleton is going to believe that the next US president (Republican or not) will have the fiscal latitude to keep up all this ridiculously unaffordable defense spending.

  12. Darthrax 10 March, 2010 at 1:19 am #

    The American Right Wing is as pathetic as the current president that it criticizes. The war-loving neo-con @#$%^&*’s have made their contribution to the country’s downfall by their unceasing desire to match tax cuts for the rich with ever-expanding defense spending (i.e., “Reaganomics”). Of course, Dubya faithfully followed that playbook. Now the country’s sitting on a national debt bomb that Obama is pumping up further big time. The result is not national security but rather monetary enslavement. Yes, the USAF (along with Japan) could use more Raptors, but FUNDING is the issue. Yes, Reagan restarted the B-1, but “Reaganomics” is not going to cut it now. Only an economically-ignorant simpleton is going to believe that the next US president (Republican or not) will have the fiscal latitude to keep up all this ridiculously unaffordable defense spending.

  13. jetcal1 10 March, 2010 at 2:16 pm #

    “……Only an economically-ignorant simpleton is going to believe that the next US president (Republican or not) will have the fiscal latitude to keep up all this ridiculously unaffordable defense spending……”

    You are correct. But you missed that the fact of the matter. Our elected representatives lack the courage to make the hard choices in other programs and will therefore cut out the spears in order to ensure bread and circuses.

  14. txp50vt20b 21 September, 2010 at 2:25 pm #

    ie9? Should Microsoft just consider the browser and let Firefox and Chrome run the show, since they are doing much better job?

  15. mercedes wedding cars 18 October, 2010 at 8:48 pm #

    I don’t think in some regards it matters to our defence capabilities what George Osborne doesn’t or does do in the defence cuts/spending review. So long as we have no alternative money supply to the privately-owned banks then the country’s left wide-open to economic attack from all quarters. That could end us.

  16. aeroxavier 7 April, 2013 at 10:09 pm #

    new article in “air & cosmos” in the exercice in UAE. this time this is not f-22vsrafale but f-22 vs mirage 200-9 (UAE). one mirage have destroy (not in reality ☺) one f-22.
    it is in dogfight and with a french pilot in the mirage.

    french pilot analysis.
    http://blog.francetv.fr/capitaine-romain/index.php/tag/f22

    resumed: he confirm equality of the rafale and f-22 in dog fight. he say: in the dog fight with similar plane, the pilot make the difference…
    he say: f-22 will not fly in BVR, and all the system(radars,..) of the plane need be analysis by the pilot for take good decision. and the power of the rafale was his fusion with all captor, with that the pilot don’t need analyse all captor because the plane make it.
    not new real info.

    the mirage 2000-9 would be largely inferior of one rafale.(pilot analysis)

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