IMAGES: Shenyang “F-60″, UCAV stealth models revealed?

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It’s been nine months since the first grainy images of the Chengdu J-20 sneaked out of China on 24 December, but perhaps it’s time to add another Chinese stealth fighter to the club. And a new UCAV.  And a new UAV.

First, meet the Shenyang F-60 (shown above). This scale model appeared on this Chinese web forum earlier today. There has long been speculation that Shenyang, maker of the J-8, was working on a rival stealth fighter to the Chengdu J-20. It’s important to note that these images show only scaled-down models, not the real thing. But they may represent the best and clearest images of Shenyang’s latest work. By the way, check the poster directly behind the fighter. That appears to show an interesting new UAV project.

That’s not the only new Shenyang programme revealed today. Over on the secretprojects forum, the spotters there posted an image of a new UCAV. It appears to be a scaled-up model of the subscale Shenyang UCAV demonstrator posted here last week.

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13 Responses to IMAGES: Shenyang “F-60″, UCAV stealth models revealed?

  1. Francois 29 September, 2011 at 5:20 pm #

    These concepts look very familiar… Which makes me think there is no higher power than the Chinese when it comes to reverse engineering.

  2. Stephen Trimble 29 September, 2011 at 5:25 pm #

    Agreed. I se an F-35 front-end mated to an F-35 back-end, which now that I think about it is a pretty cool idea.

  3. James 29 September, 2011 at 5:39 pm #

    looks like a F-22 to me. anyone else agree?

  4. Hank B 29 September, 2011 at 5:52 pm #

    Do you mean an F-22 back end (less thrust vectoring)??

  5. gustiewing 29 September, 2011 at 6:06 pm #

    I see an F35 cockpit blended with and F22 rear and a chinese name, nothing new. If the chinese want to be taken seriously they must stop copying and start coming up with their own designs.

  6. Big D 29 September, 2011 at 7:06 pm #

    How do we plan to deal with IFF issues resulting from copycat designs that go WVR against each other?

  7. jetcal1 29 September, 2011 at 9:01 pm #

    Acknowledgement of two elements of aeronautical science seem to be missing here;
    1. Form follows function
    2. Design or fashion trends within the industry
    (Twin tails, two dimensional intakes, T-tails, the list goes on.)
    Do not discount local talent. They will put their own spin on it to meet their own operational needs.
    Dismissing the competition has often had unhappy results.

  8. Gary Fragger 29 September, 2011 at 9:21 pm #

    Guys…the Chinese are very clever to use proven designs. I’m sure that they may have save billions in R&D cost. We can say that the Chinese are copycats all we want, but we really have to take them seriously. IFF issues will be solved electronically, rather than merely by design recognition.

  9. Mikey 29 September, 2011 at 9:24 pm #

    I see Northrop has been working with the Chinese with their UCAV model.

  10. chockblock 30 September, 2011 at 12:40 pm #

    I see wishful thinking on the PLA’s side. They may kitbash all they want, but do they have the computing power and the know how to make stealthy materials for a F-35 knock-off?

    The J-20 just as a low RCS and I bet it’s RAM is close to the F-117. Not that it’d be hard to copy, what with pieces sitting in Belgrade.

  11. Lightndattic 30 September, 2011 at 1:57 pm #

    So this aircraft, if real would be the YF-22 side of the Chinese ATF program, making the J-20 the YF-23.

  12. keesje 30 September, 2011 at 4:11 pm #

    The J20 seems larger and more optimized for strike mission. A smaller aircraft better optimized for Air to Air seems reasonable from a Chinese perspective. This one seems smaller, probably F18 sized ?

    The basic configurations isn’t revolutionairy, maybe origination in the revolutionairy Mig25? (don’t check, first flew 1963 way before f14,15,18 etc)

    The chinese are pragmatic. Building a big fleet of them and J20s makes them being taken seriously.

    A yr ago an F60 mockup would have been greeted with proud-hearted dismissing. Things changed since J20 appeared on internet. some suggested it was just mock-ups. A few days later it flew & strategic assesments were quickly re-written.

  13. fightingirish 30 September, 2011 at 4:32 pm #

    Qoute:
    “By the way, check the poster directly behind the fighter. That appears to show an interesting new UAV project.”

    That UAV with the pusher prop & V-Tail looks quite similar like that UAV also with the pusher prop shown at China’s 1st UAV “mega-festival”. See your post with video at 14s.
    Some differences though, like T-tail and nosewheel ( maybe better for carrier trails?)

    Slán,
    FI

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